ANOTHER UNTOLD PCSO MURDER/COVER-UP

[scoutman31]

MY FATHER WAS MURDERED IN 1990 BY AN OFF-DUTY PCSO DEPUTY. THE AUTOPSY REPORT SAID BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA AS CAUSE OF DEATH. NEEDLESS TO SAY THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY.THE FIRST ON SCENE WAS AN OFF-DUTY SHERIFF THAT HAD KNOWN DISLIKING FOR HIM. THE SOB RAN HIM OFF THE ROAD. AND PC INVESTIGATORS COVERED IT UP. WHEN I ASKED D.LINDLOFF FOR ACCIDENT REPORT & PHOTOS JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HE TOLD ME " YOU KNOW SON, SOME THINGS ARE BETTER JUST LEFT ALONE. " SHAME ON YOU D. LINLOFF!

[admin]

Scoutman31, WELCOME to our board and my condolences for your loss. We will help you, these animals must be stopped! I am glad you stepped up and alerted us of your circumstance, it is awful to think you are dealing with this alone.

You have a PM.
Widow

[scoutman31]

NOW THAT I HAVE THE TIME , I'LL STATE THE DETAILS KNOWN TO ME & MY FAMILY:
1. MY FATHER, GAIL MCKOWN , WAS ARRESTED (38 times)ON MANY OCCASIONS IN A LEWISBURG BAR BY A PCSO DEPUTY( THE SAME ONE EACH TIME)(harrassment?)
2. GAIL HABITUALLY DROVE THE SAME ROUTE HOME TO GLENWOOD EACH NIGHT 503 to WA, 35
3. HE LOST CONTROL OF HIS TRUCK & CRASHED IN A SINGLE VEHICLE ACCIDENT ON 503 S. AUGUST 25, 1990, @ 3:00 am
4. THE FIRST OFFICER ON SCENE (WHO HAPPENED TO BE BEHIND HIM) WAS THE OFF- DUTY ARREST HAPPY PCSO DEPUTY(Dep.Bredwell)
5. MY DAD DIED BEFORE HE GOT TO THE HOSPITAL
6. CAUSE OF DEATH- BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA
7. MY STEP-MOM HIRED A PI & SOON AFTER STARTED RECEIVING DEATH THREATS
8. I ASKED D. LINDLOFF FOR ACCIDENT REPORT AND WAS TOLD
QUOTE " YOU KNOW SON, SOME THINGS ARE BETTER JUST LEFT ALONE"
9. I HAD DONE SO UNTIL I FOUND THIS WEBSITE
10. I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE PAY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. I NEVER GOT TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO MY FATHER AND I BLAME DAVID LINDLOFF FOR THAT.

THESE ARE THE DETAILS AS THEY ARE KNOWN- MY LIFE IS BASED ON WHAT I SEE(FACT)- LINDLOFF AND THE PC LEGAL SYSTEM ARE NOTHING MORE THAN CAREER CRIMINALS.

[admin]

I never got to say goodbye, either. But I just know that our deceased loved ones know that we love them, that they are with us right now, and that we are fighting to bring the truth out.

First, let's get that accident report for you. The Ohio Sunshine Law guarantees your right to have that document - despite Lindloff's opinion. You must send a letter (because we have found that everything must be documented on paper because of a problem with documents not being accounted for in PC) to Votel. State your request and give the date of the accident. Put in writing that you will be happy to pay for any charges (Ohio law only permits actual cost of the copy, no "handling fees"), and put a deadline in there so they cannot drag it out.

We will be happy to assist you or do it for you, please PM me (or use the private email I sent you).

Next, I need to know who the deputy was - you can let me know privately or publicly right here on the forum.

How about the PI...was he/she ever able to come up with any information, and do you have the PI's official report?

We, too, will do whatever it takes to make sure the responsible parties answer to this. We have quite a few projects in the works and all of our cases will be very, very public when all is said and done.

I am so happy you have found us, and imagine you are as shocked as I was when I realized that there were many other cases of wrongdoing in PC. Please know that you will never have to go through this alone again.

I look forward to hearing from you,
Widow

[scoutman31]

After all these years of unanswered questions, thinking that, maybe, it was just an accident. Thinking that there is no way these people, who are supposed to work for us, could ever be so heinous. After reading what seems like hundreds of pages on here & TalkEaton, I am 100% convinced that there IS something wrong with the story. I have only lived in PC for 10 years, but I am quite familiar with the happenings of the late 80's & early 90's. My deepest sympathies goes out to all the families who have had to endure years of lies & injustice.
Has anyone looked into the idea of forming a citizen group & filing a request with the Dept. of Justice? The people are strong when in numbers. Maybe it is time we really do something! One last thing- FREE BILLY SCOTT !!!!!

[scoutman31]

scoutman31 said:

Has anyone looked into the idea of forming a citizen group & filing a request with the Dept. of Justice? The people are strong when in numbers. Maybe it is time we really do something! One last thing- FREE BILLY SCOTT !!!!!

I feel kinda dumb, now. Just minutes after posting this I discovered that you have done that. But whatever came of it? Were you ignored by them as well?

[admin]

Lesa Buckley's murder and the following investigation and indictment of Billy Scott can be read in it's entirety at ClearBillyScott.com.

Billy's father founded the Preble County Citizen's Task Force Against Corruption, and the amount of cases and the things that happened to many, many citizens are sickening. It is shocking to realize how rampant wrongdoing is and the incredible severity of these crimes...we need to add documents from your own case to the Task Force's files.

We are still working on DOJ to this day. Many of the cases have been taken to federal court - the Helriggle's won a small award for wrongdoing but much of the corruption was left out of the trial. One of the Task Force members took many of the cases to federal court and was winning the RICO aspect of the trial.

Today, we have attention nationwide from many crime sites as well as reporters and journalists, with many projects in the works.

We are looking forward to working with you, Scoutman31, your story needs to be heard.

[mamasheri]

Just have to add a correction that Admin posted to this thread. The Helriggle case NEVER went to trial. We were informed by our attorneys that the "whole" case would never make it to trial, they would only allow the actual shooting to be the only part of the case heard. We were advised to settle out of court, as we didn't have a chance in hell of winning according to them. We took our attorney's advice and I have been sorry every day since. At the time, we did what we were told was the "right" thing to do and have since found information that makes me believe that our attorneys were working hand in hand with the defense, planning their strategy to make sure this didn't go to trial. Water under the bridge now.

[admin]

Oh my goodness, Mamsheri...I wonder why I thought the case had gone to trial? I must have read bits of a news article about an award and assumed it had been won in court - my apologies.

I also did not understand that only the shooting aspect of the case was going to be tried...incredible considering that the shooting was the only wrongdoing that was perpetrated by someone that is not considered a member of "the good ole boys". We all know who perpetrated and was an accessory to the warrant, witness, stake-out and THEFT aspects...

Thanks for sharing that information, and clearing up the trial matter. Your case has just become even more fascinating to explore.

Peace and comfort to you, Mamasheri.

[scoutman31]

I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE KNEW WHATEVER HAPPENED TO DEPUTY BREDWELL(?) ?DID HE MOVE TO ANOTHER DEPT. OR RETIRE? I WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE HIM- I HAVE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR HIM. BY THE WAY I HAVE BEEN PREPARING JUST IN CASE I HAVE AN "ACCIDENT".
IS VOTEL AN ENEMY OR AN ADVERSARY? SHOULD I GO FARTHER UP THE FOOD CHAIN?

[admin]

I have checked out Bredwell after hearing of your case...he is retired and away from the area. He has participated in other wrongdoing.

Any "accident" that may occur right now will be known far and wide - we have nationwide attention inlcuding many crime sites, a couple very powerful journalists, and a retired judge who are reading these very words.

Votel is questionable. I have been told he and Lindloff are great friends. True or not, I have not seen Votel announce that he is going to clean up the county, nor have I seen any investigations or disciplinary actions on the many authorities who have a great many allegations against them. Whether an individual approaches Votel or not with their allegations, they are widely known in the county and it should not be a requirement for Votel to take action...he can look into things on his own and take the appropriate action.

There is a good FBI tip line link...any complaints done through that link creates a paper trail and gets routed to Cincinnati. If everyone would use it the FBI would soon have a large volume of information on PC activities.
tips.fbi.gov/

[smokesbiggestfan]

You have my deepest sympathies. I remember hearing about your father's death. Did not know the exact story. I do recall them trying to use the fact he was drinking and driving angle. PC preys on people like your father, the addicts and alcoholics, the mentally ill, the outspoken are often called crazy (as I have been on numerous occasions). They prey on those who are weaker and infirm and can't fight their battles. They prey on the impoverished.Occasionally they pick on someone with inner strength and fortitude regardless of their problems. They did this to me and I fought back every step of the way. I did take my case to federal court. The magistrate was buying my conspiracy theory UNTIL someone and something made him abruptly change is ways.
I also feel very bad for mamasheri and her family. I know the feeling of attorney's telling you to take what you can and settle. That is basically what happened in my case. Gave me what I wanted in a round about way. I am glad I got what I truly wanted but the thought of them getting by with all they've done for a few slaps on the hand and bad publicity leaves a sour taste in my mouth. They need to go to prison.

scoutman31 said:

I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE KNEW WHATEVER HAPPENED TO DEPUTY BREDWELL(?) ?DID HE MOVE TO ANOTHER DEPT. OR RETIRE? I WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE HIM- I HAVE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR HIM. BY THE WAY I HAVE BEEN PREPARING JUST IN CASE I HAVE AN "ACCIDENT".
IS VOTEL AN ENEMY OR AN ADVERSARY? SHOULD I GO FARTHER UP THE FOOD CHAIN?

[scoutman31]

Prison is a country club compared to where these jerks really need to go.

[karmakauzie]

I used the FBI link , just today , because I feel that I ,my self, is in danger and I have bad health anyway , it is time to speak out. DL in in the articles and some of the stuff he says, contradicts his self. The cabin was probably stored in the Nice big white barn that sat between the welfare dept. and the (vancrest) rest home. There is a errected makeshift room, from an old cabin at the Fort and there are still remanants behind it ,at the edge of the trees. The county actually used that NICE barn for fireman training , in which I think was and had remnants to the cabin now in the FORT, some of it! the rest was burned . But someone recieved something from the fort and I watched them put it in front of their house on the corner of high and beech that came out of the fort and can show you where it went in the fort. Why did this person recieve this he was supposedly just Smeltzers boss? These things happened in '97 the summer of or '98 .The first time I talked to BCI , Mr. DL decided to try and run my daughter and I when we were crossing the street , he was coming out of the court house back parking lot. In the past year he intimidated me again the same way. MF'er. Sorry but I am sure there should be worse said about him. So I also, would like you to be on the look out for my obit. hopefully karma is on my side . As DL has many job titles, how many are you aloud to have in one city or county. DEA , Coroner, sherriffof special duty. There for he is involved with car accidents when there is a chance of death, but maybe sometimes they revive them, as also acertain cop watcher, I experienced that of a night last week, Careflight came, my daughter woke me up ,and we went to see what was up , he was there in the blue car, someone went off the road even to drive up the fence, van was side ways on the fence, like drive over the fence. Care flight waited for about 15 or 20 minutes till they finally brought the person over, so I took it as trying to revive and stabalize the person . Should be in this wednesday register herald , I did not find any information on the internet about it at all or news. Waiting to see. This was around 3 or 3:30. If you don't know me I am 43 and went Eaton , I hung around Mel before I went to LV to live , I used to drive in Demo Derby with my brothers. JG/P

[karmakauzie]

Well, didn't see any accident in the paper.? So I will check the paper for accident reports for the month of July , in should be in the city limits, itwill be in city of Eaton, police reports. ;D

[karmakauzie]

Okay here we go.! Lets see Mr. Crowelly is been at the new neighbors before when they moved in and now he sits there everyday for the past 2 days. Just about 9 minutes ago I swear Mr. Daily is also following me think I lived on Chestnut , but was wrong , I slowed down on my street to see if he continued to keep going down the street , I and my children just got out of the car and he goes by real, slow. Are you telling on your self ,too??? ;D Let this to be known that they already Are checking me out!

[scoutman31]

All I have to say is, D.L., your day is coming. I'm at a junction in my life, a point where things are starting to make sense. D.L., I'm gonna f"n get you. You can try to hide behind your bogus titles and your dime store badge, but your time is limited. I have so much free time these days and the net is so resourceful, that nailing you, R.F., W.A., and M.S., is gonna be a cinch. You can try to keep your dirty little secrets hidden, but they're gonna come out. Davey-boy you better retire and get gone before it's too late.